Flight shaming targets the wrong people and distracts from real solutions. Making people feel guilty for taking a holiday won’t decarbonise aviation, but demanding real industry change just might.
Editor’s Note: This editorial draws on more than 25 years of independent travel, first-hand experience and publicly documented evidence and regulatory changes. Many of these editorials were written years before the issues became mainstream, and have been updated to reflect current developments while remaining true to their original arguments.
Few ideas have gained as much traction in recent years as flight shaming. As concern about climate change has grown, so too have the calls for people to stop flying, take fewer holidays and feel guilty for stepping onto an aircraft. Ordinary travellers have become an increasingly convenient target, portrayed as irresponsible simply for wanting to explore the world, visit family overseas or take the holiday they have worked hard to afford.
The problem is that flight shaming isn’t climate action. It is a distraction.
None of this is to deny the reality of climate change or pretend aviation has no environmental impact. Flying does contribute to global emissions, and the aviation industry absolutely must become cleaner, more efficient and more sustainable. That much should be beyond debate. But turning one of the world’s most complex industrial decarbonisation challenges into a question of individual morality completely misses the point. Making ordinary people feel guilty for flying does nothing to develop cleaner aircraft, produce sustainable aviation fuel, modernise airspace or accelerate the technological innovation needed to reduce aviation’s environmental impact.
Instead, it directs public anger towards the people with the least power to change the system while allowing those with the greatest responsibility to escape meaningful scrutiny. Governments, regulators, manufacturers, airports and airlines all have far greater influence over aviation’s future than the family sitting in row 34 on their annual holiday, yet somehow it is the passenger who is expected to carry the moral burden.
That is exactly why flight shaming is wrong. It focuses on blaming the people using the system instead of demanding that the people who run it make it better. If we genuinely want cleaner aviation, we should stop treating travellers as the problem and start holding the industry accountable for delivering the solutions.
Is Flight Shaming An Effective Way To Reduce Aviation’s Environmental Impact?
The short answer is no. Flight shaming may make some people feel guilty, but it does little to reduce aviation’s environmental impact because it targets the wrong people. While travellers can make more responsible choices and reduce their own footprint where practical, the greatest reductions in aviation emissions will come from cleaner aircraft, sustainable aviation fuels, more efficient operations, smarter regulation and sustained investment across the industry. Aviation’s environmental challenges are real, but blaming ordinary travellers will not solve them. Real progress will come from working with travellers to drive demand for a cleaner aviation industry, not by making them feel ashamed for wanting to see the world.
What Is Flight Shaming?
The term flight shaming comes from the literal translation of the Swedish ‘flygskam’, which is where the term was coined. The premise is actually very simple, flying is bad for the climate because it increases your carbon footprint significantly, so you should feel shame for contributing to that and take steps to reduce it. It’s not overly complicated, even if it isn’t correct in its oversimplification. The problem is in todays cancel culture nonsense it has of course become something far more insidious. The concept of flight shaming has become literally that, instead of feeling shame and looking at your own behaviours, it is literally now the act of shaming others, of bullying and berating and judging them for their perceived actions, and has become a rallying cry to call for all flights to be grounded completely.
But is it right to judge and bully others simply because they travel? Is the argument for shaming travellers justified because of climate concerns? Is the airline industry being unfairly maligned?
Flight Shaming Is A Distraction
Let’s get one thing straight from the outset. This is not an argument against tackling climate change, nor is it an attempt to pretend aviation has no environmental impact. It does, and the industry must continue to reduce it as quickly as possible. The problem is not the goal. The problem is where the blame is being directed.
Flight shaming takes one of the most complex industrial and technological challenges of the modern age and reduces it to a question of individual morality.
Climate protestors, in one of their more spectacular moments of performative virtue, really decided that the best way to solve one of the world’s most complex industrial decarbonisation challenges is to make Dave from Doncaster feel guilty about taking his kids to Tenerife. Seriously.
But as usual with this sort of performative activism, the louder the moral certainty, the less convincing the argument becomes. Their whole argument is that because you boarded a plane, you are the problem. That’s it. That’s the whole argument. Never mind the aircraft manufacturers designing the next generation of engines, the airlines making fleet decisions, the governments setting policy, the regulators overseeing the industry or the fuel producers developing sustainable alternatives. Apparently the greatest obstacle to decarbonising aviation is Dave from Doncaster taking his kids to Tenerife for a week in the sun.
It is an absurd proposition.
If you genuinely wanted to reduce aviation’s environmental impact, where would you focus your attention? On the family taking one holiday a year, or on the organisations with the power to redesign aircraft, invest billions in cleaner technology, modernise airspace, accelerate sustainable aviation fuel production and introduce meaningful regulation? The answer seems obvious, yet much of the public debate continues to focus on the people with the least influence over the system instead of those who control it.
That is why flight shaming is not climate action. It is a distraction. It creates the comforting illusion that a global problem can be solved simply by making individuals feel guilty, while allowing those with the greatest responsibility to avoid the same level of scrutiny. Responsibility should follow power, and when it comes to making aviation cleaner, ordinary travellers have remarkably little of it.
None of this is to suggest travellers have no role to play. Making thoughtful choices, travelling more responsibly where practical and supporting airlines investing in genuine environmental improvements are all worthwhile. But there is a world of difference between encouraging responsible travel and telling people they should feel ashamed for wanting to explore the world, visit loved ones or take the holiday they have worked hard to afford.
If the objective is cleaner aviation, then public pressure should be aimed where it can actually make a difference. Blaming passengers may generate headlines and moral outrage, but it has never reduced a single aircraft’s emissions.
If the objective is cleaner aviation, then public pressure should be aimed where it can actually make a difference. Blaming passengers may generate headlines, social media outrage and a warm glow of moral superiority, but it has never reduced a single aircraft’s emissions. Demanding better aircraft, better fuels, better regulation and a more accountable aviation industry just might.
Attacking The Wrong Target
The biggest problem with flight shaming isn’t simply that it doesn’t work, it doesn’t, but it is that it diverts attention away from the people and organisations capable of making a genuine difference and redirects it towards those who have almost no influence over the outcome. Rather than asking why governments continue to move so slowly on aviation policy, why sustainable aviation fuels are not being produced at the scale required, why airspace modernisation remains painfully sluggish or why cleaner technologies are taking decades to reach widespread adoption, campaigners instead decide the priority is making ordinary people feel guilty for booking a flight.
This is what happens when performative feelings dictate campaign slogans. That is not logic. It is emotional theatre masquerading as environmental policy, and it goes against every fundamental paradigm in climate science and policy.
The IPCC’s Sixth Assessment Report on climate change mitigation, along with the wider mainstream climate policy literature, consistently concludes that meaningful decarbonisation depends on structural, technological and policy changes that enable lower-carbon choices, rather than expecting individual behaviour alone to deliver the necessary reductions.
Somewhere along the line, environmental campaigning took a wrong turn. Instead of asking how governments, industries and regulators could transform the systems that produce emissions, increasing attention was directed towards the people simply living within those systems. Somehow, using existing infrastructure became morally equivalent to being responsible for creating it.
That isn’t just flawed logic; it runs contrary to much of what we know about how large-scale change actually happens.
Individuals can only choose from the options placed in front of them. Travellers cannot book a zero-emissions aircraft if airlines do not operate one. Passengers cannot fill a plane with sustainable aviation fuel if it is unavailable at commercial scale. Consumers cannot opt into cleaner air traffic management, redesign aircraft engines or accelerate billions of pounds of investment in new technologies. They are participants in the system, not the architects of it.
This idea that individual behaviour alone should carry the burden of solving systemic problems has become so widespread that many people rarely stop to question it. Ironically, one of the most successful examples of this thinking came not from environmentalists but from the fossil fuel industry itself. The now-famous idea of the personal carbon footprint was aggressively promoted by BP, helping to steer public discussion towards individual lifestyle choices and away from the companies extracting and selling fossil fuels in the first place. Few public relations campaigns have been quite so effective. Decades later, people are still arguing over whether their neighbour should take a flight while multinational industries quietly remain the centre of the discussion far less often than they should.
Even if you ignore that irony, the argument still collapses under its own weight. The cumulative effect of millions of individual choices certainly matters, but history repeatedly shows that the biggest environmental gains come when those choices are supported by systemic change. Cleaner electricity grids reduce emissions regardless of who switches on the kettle. More efficient aircraft reduce emissions regardless of who buys the ticket. Sustainable aviation fuels, better technology, smarter regulation and modernised infrastructure benefit every passenger automatically because they change the system itself rather than relying on millions of individuals all making the ‘right’ decision.
There is also a question of fairness. The people most readily condemned by flight-shaming campaigns are often those with the fewest realistic alternatives. Lower-income households cannot always afford expensive ‘green’ options, assuming those options even exist, and many families save for years to take a single overseas holiday. Treating environmental responsibility as though it were simply a matter of personal virtue ignores the very real constraints of cost, geography, infrastructure and opportunity.
The uncomfortable reality is that passengers have remarkably little influence over how aviation evolves at this stage. They cannot accelerate research into hydrogen propulsion, increase investment in sustainable aviation fuels, redesign aircraft, modernise international air traffic management or negotiate global emissions standards. They can choose between the options placed in front of them, they can apply economic pressure eventually, but they cannot fundamentally reshape the industry itself. Those decisions are made by airlines, manufacturers, governments, regulators and fuel producers, which is precisely where the overwhelming majority of public pressure should be directed.
Instead, flight shaming chooses the easiest possible target because ordinary travellers cannot fight back in the same way multinational corporations or governments can. It is far simpler to lecture families about taking a summer holiday than it is to challenge policymakers over years of political inertia or demand that industry invests faster in the technologies that will actually reduce emissions. One approach requires little more than a self-righteous social media post. The other requires sustained pressure, technical understanding and a willingness to engage with problems that are far more complicated than a catchy slogan.
That is why I find the whole movement so intellectually hollow. It mistakes guilt for action, symbolism for progress and moral posturing for meaningful environmentalism. Feeling superior because someone else cancelled their holiday achieves absolutely nothing if the aviation industry itself remains largely unchanged. The atmosphere neither knows nor cares how virtuous somebody felt after posting a hashtag. It only responds to actual reductions in emissions, and those reductions will come from cleaner technology, smarter regulation, better infrastructure and sustained investment, not from public campaigns designed to make ordinary people feel ashamed for wanting to see the world.
If the objective is genuinely to reduce aviation’s environmental impact, then the conclusion is unavoidable. Stop blaming the people who merely use the system and start holding accountable the people who have the power to improve it. Until that happens, flight shaming will remain exactly what it has always been: a misguided exercise in performative outrage that expends enormous amounts of energy while accomplishing remarkably little.
Flying Is A Way Of Life, And That Will Not Change
One of the greatest weaknesses of the flight-shaming movement is that it mistakes aviation for an optional luxury when, for much of the modern world, it simply isn’t. Flying is not some frivolous indulgence enjoyed by a tiny elite. It is woven into the fabric of modern society. It connects families separated by oceans, underpins global trade, supports scientific research, enables humanitarian relief, allows international cooperation and gives billions of people access to opportunities that simply would not exist otherwise. The modern world has been built on global connectivity, and aviation is one of the foundations that makes it possible.
Yet flight shaming often behaves as though the answer is simply for people to stop. Stop visiting family overseas. Stop studying abroad. Stop exploring other cultures. Stop taking the holiday they have saved years to afford. Stop living in the interconnected world that governments, businesses and technology have spent decades creating. It is an astonishingly simplistic answer to an extraordinarily complex problem, and one that ignores the reality of how people actually live their lives.
There is also an unmistakable air of privilege running through much of the movement. It is remarkably easy to tell other people they should stay at home when you have the financial security, career flexibility or geographical good fortune to do so yourself. For millions of people, however, flying is not about conspicuous consumption or environmental indifference. It is about maintaining relationships, pursuing careers, accessing education, discovering the world or simply taking a well-earned break. Treating those aspirations as moral failings is not environmentalism. It is moralising.
Perhaps most ironically of all, travel is one of the greatest antidotes to the narrow-mindedness that so often fuels simplistic thinking. Seeing different cultures, landscapes and societies broadens perspectives in ways few other experiences can. Many of the world’s strongest advocates for conservation and sustainable tourism are people who developed those convictions precisely because they travelled, witnessed environmental destruction first-hand and returned determined to protect the places they had come to love. Telling people to see less of the world is a strange way to encourage them to care more about it.
None of this is an excuse for aviation’s environmental impact, nor should it be. Aviation absolutely must become cleaner, and it should be under relentless pressure to do so. But there is a profound difference between demanding a cleaner aviation industry and demanding fewer travellers. One is a serious environmental strategy aimed at reducing emissions. The other is little more than asking ordinary people to make sacrifices while leaving the underlying system largely unchanged.
That is ultimately why flight shaming fails. It begins with the assumption that travel itself is the problem, when the real problem is the emissions produced by how we currently travel. Solve that, and people can continue to experience all the enormous social, cultural and economic benefits of aviation without carrying the environmental cost that rightly concerns us today. That should always have been the objective.
Shame Has Never Been An Effective Environmental Strategy
Perhaps the greatest weakness of the flight-shaming movement is that it fundamentally misunderstands how meaningful environmental progress is achieved. It begins with the comforting belief that if enough ordinary people are made to feel guilty about flying, society will somehow become more sustainable. It is an appealingly simple theory because it demands very little thought or intelligence beyond public condemnation of others. It is the pitchfork variety of mob activism. Unfortunately, simple theories are not necessarily good ones, and this one collapses remarkably quickly under scrutiny.
Guilt and shaming does work in some limited contexts, usually against larger organisations rather than individuals, but behavioural science has long recognised that making people feel guilty is a remarkably weak tool for solving systemic problems. Where choices are constrained by infrastructure, technology or affordability, shame rarely changes the underlying behaviour because it does nothing to change the underlying conditions. More often they create resentment, defensiveness and performative compliance, with people saying the ‘right’ things in public while quietly carrying on exactly as before. Eventually the tactic does more harm than good because it will polarise people and eventually they will turn around, stick two fingers up to your paradigm and entrench themselves in the opposite position.
Lasting change tends to happen when governments, industries and innovators make the better choice the easier choice. Cleaner technologies replace dirtier ones. Infrastructure evolves. Regulations improve. Markets adapt. Society moves forward because the system changes, not because millions of people suddenly become morally enlightened.
That is precisely why the central premise of flight shaming is so deeply flawed. It does not produce cleaner aircraft, accelerate sustainable aviation fuels, modernise air traffic management, improve aircraft design or persuade airlines to invest billions in the next generation of technology. It simply identifies the person sitting in seat 24A and declares that they are the problem. That may satisfy the very human desire to find somebody to blame, but blame has never been a substitute for solving the problem itself.
Perhaps that is exactly why flight shaming has become so fashionable. It is environmentalism stripped of all the difficult parts. There is no need to understand aviation, climate policy, engineering or economics. There is no need to challenge governments over decades of political inertia, pressure regulators into reform, persuade airlines to modernise their fleets or support the enormous investment required to decarbonise one of the world’s most technically complex industries. Instead, all of that hard work can be replaced with a disapproving post aimed at somebody who booked a holiday.
It is activism with all the inconvenience removed. You get to advertise your principles, display your moral virtue and enjoy the approval of like-minded people without ever confronting the institutions that actually possess the power to reduce emissions. Feeling like you are making a difference, however, is not the same as actually making one.
There is also an extraordinary contradiction at the heart of the movement. The same voices that rightly describe climate change as a vast systemic challenge involving governments, international regulation, energy policy, industrial transformation and technological innovation suddenly abandon all of that complexity the moment somebody boards a plane. A problem requiring decades of coordinated global action is reduced to the moral failings of a family taking a summer holiday. It is an astonishing collapse in intellectual consistency.
The uncomfortable truth is that tackling the real causes of aviation emissions is hard. It takes years of research, billions in investment, painstaking international negotiations, regulatory reform and sustained political pressure. None of it is glamorous, none of it fits neatly into a social media post and none of it offers the instant gratification of publicly condemning somebody else. It is far easier to shame your neighbour for flying to Greece than it is to spend twenty years helping build a cleaner aviation industry. One path requires little more than self-righteousness. The other demands expertise, persistence and a willingness to solve problems rather than simply identify them.
That, ultimately, is why I find flight shaming so intellectually hollow. It mistakes guilt for policy, symbolism for progress and public condemnation for meaningful environmental action. It allows people to feel morally superior while leaving the machinery that actually produces aviation emissions almost entirely untouched. Carbon dioxide, rather inconveniently for the virtue signallers, is completely indifferent to hashtags, public scolding and carefully curated displays of environmental purity. It responds only to fewer emissions. If a campaign produces a million outraged tweets but not a single cleaner aircraft, lower-carbon fuel or measurable reduction in emissions, then the atmosphere has noticed precisely nothing.
The irony is almost perfect. A movement that claims to be driven by science ends up relying on one of the least scientific approaches to solving complex problems: making ordinary people feel bad and hoping that somehow fixes the system. It never has, it does not now, and there is no reason to believe aviation will be the exception.
The Aviation Industry Needs Pressure To Take Responsibility
None of this should be mistaken for a defence of the aviation industry’s environmental record. Quite the opposite. If anything, I believe airlines, manufacturers, governments and regulators deserve far more scrutiny than they currently receive. They are the organisations with the resources, expertise and authority to reshape aviation over the coming decades, and they should be under relentless pressure to do exactly that.
To be fair, the industry has made genuine progress over the last two decades. Modern aircraft are dramatically more fuel efficient than those they replaced, airlines have invested billions in newer fleets and sustainable aviation fuels are beginning, albeit frustratingly slowly, to move from aspiration to commercial reality. Aircraft manufacturers are investing heavily in new propulsion technologies, air traffic management continues to improve and engineers are finding efficiencies that would have seemed impossible a generation ago. None of this is happening quickly enough, but it is happening.
That progress now needs to accelerate.
Governments should be creating stable, long-term policies that encourage investment rather than political uncertainty that discourages it. Airlines should continue modernising fleets instead of squeezing every last year out of older, less efficient aircraft. Manufacturers should be investing aggressively in the technologies that will define the next generation of flight, from more efficient engines and lightweight materials to hybrid-electric and hydrogen propulsion where those technologies prove viable. Airports should modernise infrastructure, regulators should remove unnecessary inefficiencies and international cooperation should focus on reducing emissions rather than merely redistributing them on paper.
This is where public pressure belongs. Challenge airlines when they drag their feet. Challenge governments when they fail to invest. Challenge regulators when outdated rules slow progress. Demand more research, more innovation, more competition and faster deployment of genuinely cleaner technologies. Those are the battles worth fighting because they are the ones capable of delivering emissions reductions measured in millions of tonnes rather than kilograms.
When those alternatives exist, then passengers can put economic pressure on airlines with individual choices.
That is another thing that has always frustrated me about flight shaming. It directs enormous amounts of public energy towards people with almost no ability to solve the problem while allowing those with the greatest power to escape comparatively lightly. It is like standing outside a hospital shouting at patients instead of demanding better healthcare. It might make you feel as though you are doing something, but it has almost no impact on the institution capable of delivering meaningful change.
If aviation is to have a sustainable future—and it absolutely must—then the industry has to earn it. That means embracing innovation faster, investing more boldly and accepting that reducing emissions is no longer an optional public relations exercise but the price of remaining one of the world’s most important industries. Hold the industry to account by all means. Just stop pretending the family in row 37 are the ones steering it.
So What Can Individual Travellers Actually Do?
There is a dangerous tendency in modern environmental debates to assume that the only meaningful solution is to do less. Drive less. Eat less. Consume less. Fly less. Sometimes that is exactly the right answer. Often it is not. The goal should never be to make life smaller for its own sake. It should be to make the way we live cleaner, smarter and more sustainable.
Travel is no exception.
The answer has never been to stop exploring the world. It has always been to explore it more thoughtfully.
This is something independent travellers and backpackers have understood for generations. Long before sustainability became a marketing buzzword, many were already travelling in ways that naturally reduced their environmental impact. They stayed longer in each destination instead of racing through countries collecting passport stamps. They travelled overland whenever it made sense, taking trains, buses and ferries instead of automatically booking another flight. They used local guesthouses rather than anonymous international hotel chains, ate in locally owned restaurants, shopped in neighbourhood markets and spent their money within local communities instead of exporting it straight back to multinational corporations. None of it was driven by guilt. It was simply a better way to travel.
Ironically, slowing down often makes travel better as well as more sustainable. Spending three weeks exploring one country is almost always a richer experience than trying to squeeze six countries into ten frantic days. Travelling by train through Europe, taking an overnight ferry across the Mediterranean or crossing a continent overland allows you to experience the journey itself rather than simply treating it as the inconvenient gap between two airports. You see more, understand more and contribute more to the places you visit.
That does not mean every flight is unnecessary. Far from it. Sometimes flying is the only practical option, particularly for long-haul journeys or destinations separated by oceans. There is little virtue in pretending otherwise. But once you arrive, there are countless decisions that genuinely are within your control. Stay longer instead of taking multiple short breaks. Combine several destinations into one journey rather than making repeated return flights. Travel overland where it is practical and enjoyable. Choose operators with credible sustainability commitments rather than those making vague marketing claims. Respect local cultures, reduce waste, avoid exploitative wildlife attractions and spend your money in ways that benefit local people rather than simply passing through.
These are not acts of self-sacrifice. They are the habits of better travellers.
Perhaps the most important change, however, is one of mindset. Stop thinking of sustainability as a series of restrictions and start thinking of it as a way of travelling more meaningfully. The best journeys have never been measured by the number of flights taken or countries ticked off a list. They are measured by the experiences you have, the people you meet, the places you genuinely get to know and the positive impact you leave behind. Slow travel is not merely a lower-carbon alternative. More often than not, it is simply better travel.
And yes, where genuine lower-carbon alternatives exist, use them. Take the train instead of a short-haul flight when it is practical. Walk through a city instead of taking taxis everywhere. Support accommodation providers that take sustainability seriously. Carry a reusable water bottle where safe drinking water is available. Reduce unnecessary waste. None of these actions will solve climate change on their own, but unlike flight shaming they achieve something tangible. They reduce your own impact without demanding that everybody else carry the burden of fixing a system they do not control.
Ultimately, this is what a mature environmental conversation should look like. Hold the aviation industry to account. Demand faster innovation. Push governments to create policies that genuinely accelerate decarbonisation. Challenge greenwashing wherever it appears. But do not confuse those responsibilities with the simple human desire to see the world.
Travel is one of the greatest forces for education, understanding and perspective that humanity has ever created. It broadens minds, strengthens international relationships, supports livelihoods and reminds us that there is far more that unites us than divides us. The answer has never been to shame people into staying at home. It has always been to make the extraordinary privilege of exploring our planet cleaner, fairer and more sustainable.
Travel better.
Not less.
Because if we get this right, future generations should inherit a world where seeing it is no longer something anyone has to feel guilty about.
Michael Huxley
Michael Huxley is the founder of Bemused Backpacker, a travel writer, published author, international speaker and former nurse who has spent more than twenty-five years travelling independently through over 150 countries. He helps readers travel with more confidence, safety and perspective.
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48 responses to “Flight Shaming Is Wrong And Will Not Help The Environment.”
Exactly as you said, this is just the latest virtue signal for people to feel moray superior about. It doesn’t actually affect any positive change.
Very true.
They want you to give up foreign holidays, gas boilers, petrol cars, meat but politicians can’t even give up private jets.
Well we can only have rules like this for the plebs, don’t you know!
Once again you hit the nail right on the head.
Thank you.
Agreed completely. We live in a throwaway society, ship stuff across the world daily, and now we’re entering the season where we’re encouraged to buy as much as possible just for the sake of it in the name of Christmas, and yet stopping a holiday or two a year will save us all? After covid I’m done listening to the fear peddling and what we must do to save everyone.
The hypocrisy and selective messaging is very tiresome, I agree.
So just shouting at people who fly is going to save the planet is it? OK then. Keep wearing those plastic masks sheeple.
Very well said. Travel is a net benefit. The more people see of the world the better care they’ll take of it.
Very true Eli
I agree completely but I would be supportive of measures or initiatives to reduce domestic and business/first class travel, subsidising trains, especially in the UK etc. I think those measures would be more acceptable.
I don’t think many people would disagree with a reasonable discussion on those things Louise, I’m all for making train travel as cheap as possible and expanding choice! But as always it is the extreme views on banning flights that shout the loudest.
When they make trains and public transport cheap and much more reliable I’ll think about not flying short haul or domestic. Until then …
I completely agree Chris.
So as a climate denier you are allergic to fact I take it?
So as a zealot you have no fact or argument to give you just throw insults I take it?
You have a lot to learn from real experts.
Please enlighten me oh sage one … I’ll wait.
I couldn’t give a toss how people travel given that the so called Climate Emergency is a scam to fleece more and more money out of people.
You aren’t entirely wrong Abi.
Yeah, when celebrities and politicians stop flying around in private jets they can tell me about flying off on holiday a few times a year
Good point.
Yeah because alternatives like train travel in the UK is so affordable
Exactly. If you want to make the argument to lessen something at least give reasonable alternatives.
So youre a climate denier, an anti-vaxxer, and a generally anti-science person then? 😂
Yeah, I’m an anti vaxxer who advises on and encourages vaccines where necessary and a climate denier who campaigns on many varied environmental issues. Both of which are highly evidenced in any one of dozens of articles on this site. You utter clown. Tell me, what is your definition of science exactly?
Ha! You win the best response with this one!
I’m all fir talking about being sustainable and helping the planet and all but this net zero extremism needs to stop.
It really does.
Banning flights to control the climate will have the EXACT same effect as a lockdown to stop an airborne virus. As in none at all.
Exactly
People really need to stop flying. Not worth it.
Okay Julia, and what do you propose they do as an alternative? The world is not going to stop travelling, it is that simple, so what is your solution?
‘The quickest and easiest way to reduce aviation emissions is to fly less.’ It is not difficult.
And the quickest and easiest way to reduce every emission is mass human genocide. It’s not difficult. Is that a reasonable response too?
We need to fly less. We have to. A global survey shows just below half – or 46% – of 325 aviation executives surveyed believe the industry will meet its goal of net zero emissions by 2050.
So what? The issue isn’t if they will reach the goal or not, but that the goal is both unreasonable and unobtainable in the first place.
Authoritarian net zero fanatics will not have to ban flying at this point, people will just become too fed up with the average cost of a flight. They’ll price people out.
That is a scary thought Glen.
I will never travel by plane or other very pollutive means likes boats that arent sailboats again. Ever. I don’t want to hurt my prospects for a livable future.
Really Jan? So you stay at home and walk everywhere do you? You never take a car or a bus anywhere? You think we live in the 1800s and chartering passage on a sailboat is commonplace?
Yay! Let’s all fly more and see what happens! Sounds like a terrific plan! Let’s also build more runways and airports on farmland purchased specifically to accommodate for more flights! Don’t kid yourself, the aviation industry is moving towards carbon neutrality very slowly and kicking and screaming. And IF or when they get there, then 1) have you heard of the rebound effect? It will produce more co2 to replace absolutely every plane and the extra supply and demand for air travel is very likely to increase so much that it will offset much of the emissions savings and 2) co2 emissions are only one of many factors in the emergency humans are facing. Everywhere in the media all we hear is carbon neutrality but we only seldom hear about plastic particles and never about tyre and brakes particles and, very importantly, the rapid depletion of all resources on the planet. The automobile industry wants all drivers to buy brand new electric cars instead of converting combustion engine ones. There every reason to think that the same will happen with planes and whole new fleets will be built, adding more strain on the planet’s resources.
Yay, let’s scrap all technological and societal advances, never travel anywhere and go back to living in caves and shitting in the woods then, eh? Your moronic mentality is leading to the extremism fuelling the even more moronic political authoritarianism, including the push for electric cars which you cry about so much. (Where does the electric still come from to keep those going by the way? Hmmm.) The ONLY way forward is innovation and new, cleaner and more sustainable fleets and flying MORE will increase the demand and urgency for that. Philistine.
Going back to living in cages is always the argument of those who do do see the value of stepping back a little. You’re taking it to its most illogical extreme. We don’t need to end progress when progress is actually beneficial for humanity and the planet. Mass tourism and excessive air travel are only a symptom of a consumerist-at-all-costs society, a growth-for-for-the-sake-of-growth society, wanting to produce and consume to infinity on a planet with finite resources. We are driving towards a wall. I personally see nothing wrong with grounding all passenger planes and banning private cars. There are restrictions to our freedoms for the sake of our and others’ safety. Banning cars and planes would be like Ulysses being tied to the mast, restrained in order to survive the mermaids. Nobody disagrees that it is bad that murder is illegal. Deliberate ecocide should also be banned in all its forms.
Yes progress IS beneficial, well done. But you don’t have progress with your fascistic authoritarian approach, this has nothing to do with safety (I bet you still wear a mask, don’t you?) and you are the only extremist here wanting to ban all flights and cars 😂 And no, banning all forms of transport means the Argo would have never been built and the Odyssey never written. Try harder son, you don’t do well when you try and sound clever. With no demand there will be no progress, just see any communist society throughout history. You go back and live in your cave (although remember, there’s no electricity for your phone there, hypocrite), I’ll keep flying and campaigning for more innovation, not more taxes or extremist stupidity
Yes, I wear a face mask when I’m not well. I have washable, reusable masks.
Hahahahaha! Yep, thanks for proving my point. Stay scared and go hide in a cave, hypocrite.